So after doing some additional reading at the suggestion of @drnic, I read what @tmornini said about the changes occurring. What is the stated view of events? EngineYard is growing up. I can believe this as a plausible explanation, I state this because I have personally gone through this type of change at several of the startups that I have founded (specifically @Surgient & @Hyper9). Companies change and mature (at least hopefully they do). As these changes happen, the companies aren’t always the right fit for the same group of employees that were there in the very beginning.
This is actually a very frequent occurrence at successful companies, one of which that comes to mind is VMware. I watched from the outside as a customer and partner, VMware went from a <100 person company when I first worked with them to an independent subsidiary of EMC with >100K employees. Now VMware has multiple companies that are subsidiaries of it!
I still am left wondering what EngineYard’s real plan is, although I did see a mention that the customers leaving might have been on an old hardware platform as well. I will post more if/when I find out more. EngineYard looks like it is in an exciting phase and a great place to work (great momentum).
Am I the only one that finds odd things afoot at EngineYard? Since August @ezmobius, @wycats and @carllerche have all left EngineYard (under friendly terms from what I can tell). Now High Profile EY customers are deciding to leave on friendly terms? In the past week I have seen two examples of this; the first was with New Relic deciding to change to their own model + a different provider (yet said they had no issues with EngineYard)
and then Pivotal Labs app Pivotal Tracker is leaving under similar circumstances (IMHO).
In my mind, NONE of this would be odd, except that it has all happened in the window from Sept. 1st through Nov. 1st. and both companies have chosen early November for their move (one heck of a coincidence). What is going on over at EngineYard? BTW, in case any of you out there are wondering, I’m not an EngineYard customer, but I may be in the future. I am actually impressed with what they have built and I’m a fan of both Ruby and JRuby. 🙂
Dave, if you’re ever in SF then come by for a visit.
Go the Giants! 🙂
You weren’t the only one to notice, but you did also forget @atmos has moved on the same day iirc (or just after) ez did. They lose ez and gain a dr nic. I have used their service and liked it. no complaints really. It wasn’t the perfect fit for me either, but for a staging environment, it’s quite nice.
I guess the trouble I have is the perception that I’m paying for an amazon product with a markup to EY to use their gui. Right or wrong, that is what their cloud offering felt like. I wouldn’t mind paying the markup if i didn’t also have to figure out Recipes, and weridness for installing packages that are needed by some gems.
Compare that to another amazon wrapper product, like heroku. That shit is dead simple. 5 mins (if you don’t need search) and you are set. If you do have troubles their docs help you out big time. In EY’s case, I could have paid $200 for a support plan, which I only needed to use what, 5 mins of someone’s time who knows what they are doing. I used the public IRC and got some help there, but again it isn’t always available, even though they were great guys in the irc chat room.
Anyways thanks for posting your thoughts, I just didn’t want you to think you were alone in thinking the same thing.
Too early to tell if the exodus of client and ‘rails’ folks is good or bad. But one thing is clear, keep an eye on the one who pulls the puppets strings…